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Afghanistan: McCain’s Biggest Flip Flop

Posted in Accountability, Flip Flops, Read for Yourself with tags , , , , on July 17, 2008 by doubletalkexpress

A transcript from Meet The Press on October 21st, 2001 was brought to light today by Daily Kos blogger slinkerwink. In it John McCain makes the argument that we first needed to achieve victory in Afghanistan prior to any war with Iraq. He points out that he believes taking out bin Laden, the Taliban, and restoring the Afghan government should take precedence over war with Iraq. This is the same policy advocated by Barack Obama who John McCain accuses of being naive and out of touch on foreign policy.

RUSSERT: Would you have any problem expanding President Bush’s orders to the CIA to go after Osama bin Laden to include Saddam Hussein?

LIEBERMAN: Well, I leave that to the president. But as a matter of principle and morality, of course not.

RUSSERT: Senator McCain?

MCCAIN: I think Joe’s right.

And I would just like to add one additional point. I believe that we will succeed. We will endure in Afghanistan. We will take out bin Laden, and we will take out the Taliban. And then we’ve got a major challenge of a stable government, but…

RUSSERT: How long will that take?

MCCAIN: I think the longer we give the impression that we’re there for, the shorter it’ll be. Because, as you quoted from articles earlier, they think they can outlast us. I don’t think they can this time.

RUSSERT: Do you believe the American people will continue to stay with that campaign?

MCCAIN: Absolutely, and I think the president is doing a great job in leading America and making us aware of the challenge we face.

But I think the real crunch is going to come after Afghanistan is settled and then we have to address the other countries, including Iraq.
That’s where the coalition may not be so strong. That’s where people like the Saudis and the French and many others may have real reservations.

And so, we’re going to have to be steadfast. And again, the president will continue and, I think, very eloquently stated, countries that harbor these terrorist organizations will be held responsible, so it’ll be their choice, not ours. It’ll be their choice.

RUSSERT: But after Afghanistan, you’d have no problem going after Saddam Hussein?

RUSSERT: Senator Lieberman, should we include Iraq as a military target in this war against terrorism?

LIEBERMAN: Well, of course, I feel that so long as Saddam Hussein is in power in Iraq, the United States is in danger. And I think if you look at the words of the president’s statement to Congress, again, the war against terrorism, it says, we’re not going to be safe until we rid the world of people who have the capacity and the intention to strike at civilians to achieve political ends.

There is some evidence to suggest that Saddam Hussein may have had contact with bin Laden and the Al Qaeda network, perhaps even involved in the September 11 attack. That raises my suspicions.

But the more important point is, we know that Saddam would like to do us the worst kind of ill. We know that he has worked on chemical and biological weapons and, in fact, has used them against his own people and against the Iranians. In my opinion, therefore, Saddam is a terrorist.

And, therefore, we should–it should be a centerpiece of our policy after we finish the business in Afghanistan and bin Laden to end that regime. It begins for me by supporting the Iraqi opposition, the people within Iraq that want to get rid of him. But then, ultimately there has to be an American and, I hope, allied military component to that. Because as long as Saddam is there, our lives are threatened.

RUSSERT: Would you have any problem expanding President Bush’s orders to the CIA to go after Osama bin Laden to include Saddam Hussein?

LIEBERMAN: Well, I leave that to the president. But as a matter of principle and morality, of course not.

RUSSERT: Senator McCain?

MCCAIN: I think Joe’s right.

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Who’s Behind John McCains Economic Policy?

Posted in Accountability, Read for Yourself with tags , , , on July 17, 2008 by doubletalkexpress

From: ProgressiveAccountability.org

McCain’s Approach To Housing Crisis Shaped By Adviser Gramm

American Banker: Bankers Looking To Gramm For Clues On McCain’s Policy. American Banker reported, “The financial services platform of Republican presidential candidate John McCain is largely a mystery, but bankers are looking to a familiar face in his entourage for some hints: former Senate Banking Committee Chairman Phil Gramm. As the Arizona senator trumpets other issues on the campaign trail, such as Iraq and government spending, his financial policies have been left to an extensive team of economists that includes Mr. Gramm, who also co-chairs his campaign. The Texas Republican’s involvement in the campaign – and potential choice as Treasury secretary – is seen as a critical clue as to how Sen. McCain would handle the housing crisis … Wayne Abernathy, a former aide to Mr. Gramm on the Banking Committee and now the American Bankers Association’s executive director of regulatory affairs, said the two senators’ philosophical alignment, as well as Sen. McCain’s policies while chairing the Commerce Committee, reflect a preference for market rather than government solutions.” [American Banker, 3/11/08, emphasis added]

  • American Banker: Gramm’s Role In McCain Campaign “Should Give Comfort To Bankers.” American Banker reported, “Mr. Gramm, a principal author of the 1999 Gramm-Leach-Bliley Act, which broke down the walls between banking, insurance, and securities, left Congress in late 2002 to become vice chairman of UBS Warburg. … Observers say that Mr. Gramm’s connection with the campaign should give comfort to bankers unsure of how Sen. McCain would view financial services issues.” [American Banker, 3/11/08, emphasis added]

McCain Donations From The Mortgage Industry

McCain Has Taken Over $2.1 Million From The Banking And Mortgage Industry. McCain has taken $2,120,794 in campaign contributions from the banking and mortgage lending industry, according to a Campaign Money Watch analysis of data obtained from the nonpartisan Center for Responsive Politics. This total reflects donations of $200 and above from individuals and PACs received by his campaign committees and leadership PAC through May 31, 2008. [Center for Responsive Politics via Campaign Money Watch]

  • McCain Has Taken $1.57 Million From The Banking And Mortgage Industry In 2008 Election Cycle Alone. McCain has taken $1.57 million in campaign contributions from the banking and mortgage lending industry in the 2008 election cycle alone, nearly three times what he received from 1989 to 2006, according to a Campaign Money Watch analysis of data obtained from the nonpartisan Center for Responsive Politics. [Center for Responsive Politics via Campaign Money Watch]

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McCain Confusing His Own Message?

Posted in Flip Flops, Read for Yourself with tags , , , , on July 16, 2008 by doubletalkexpress

Robert Gibbs, July 15, 2008

The self-professed candidate of “straight talk” and “experience” spent today changing his position on gay adoption, adopting Senator Obama’s position that we need more troops in Afghanistan after having resisted taking that position, flip flopping on whether he’d send U.S. or NATO troops (he actually offered three different explanations on where those additional troops would come from), and referring to a country that hasn’t existed since 1992 for the second time in two days.

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Does Phil Gramm Speak For John McCain?

Posted in Accountability, Education, Watch for Yourself with tags , , , , on July 13, 2008 by doubletalkexpress

I do not think that either candidate should be held responsible for what others choose to say. Phil Grahm said that we are “a nation of whiners” when it comes to the economy and that this is a “mental recession.” The problem is John McCain has echoed Phil Grahm’s philosophy on several occasions as the last half of this video shows.

So my question is when does this stop becoming a “mental or psychological” recession? When gas is $6 dollars a gallon? When the government has to take over both Fannie May and Freddie Mac after already bailing out Bear Sterns?

John McCain – 61 Flip Flops and Counting (The Carpetbagger Report)

Posted in Flip Flops, Read for Yourself with tags , , on July 12, 2008 by doubletalkexpress

From: http://www.alternet.org/election08/90956

By Steve Benen, The Carpetbagger Report. Posted July 10, 2008.

Editor’s Note: Writer Steve Benen has graciously compiled a comprehensive tally of John McCain’s flip-flops on issues ranging from national security to energy. The following is Benen’s list of 61 clear 180-degree switches by McCain on the biggest issues of the day.

National Security Policy

1. McCain thought Bush’s warrantless wiretap program circumvented the law; now he believes the opposite.

2. McCain insisted that everyone, even “terrible killers,” “the worst kind of scum of humanity,” and detainees at Guantanamo Bay, “deserve to have some adjudication of their cases,” even if that means “releasing some of them.” McCain now believes the opposite.

3. He opposed indefinite detention of terrorist suspects. When the Supreme Court reached the same conclusion, he called it “one of the worst decisions in the history of this country.”

4. In February, McCain reversed course on prohibiting waterboarding.

5. McCain favored closing the detention facility at Guantanamo Bay before he was against it.

6. When Barack Obama talked about going after terrorists in Pakistani mountains with Predators, McCain criticized him for it. He’s since come to the opposite conclusion.

Foreign Policy

7. McCain was for kicking Russia out of the G8 before he was against it.

8. McCain supported moving “toward normalization of relations” with Cuba. Now he believes the opposite.

9. McCain believed the United States should engage in diplomacy with Hamas. Now he believes the opposite.

10. McCain believed the United States should engage in diplomacy with Syria. Now he believes the opposite.

11. McCain is both for and against a “rogue state rollback” as a focus of his foreign policy vision.

12. McCain used to champion the Law of the Sea convention, even volunteering to testify on the treaty’s behalf before a Senate committee. Now he opposes it.

13. McCain was against divestment from South Africa before he was for it.

Military Policy

14. McCain recently claimed that he was the “greatest critic” of Rumsfeld’s failed Iraq policy. In December 2003, McCain praised the same strategy as “a mission accomplished.” In March 2004, he said, “I’m confident we’re on the right course.” In December 2005, he said, “Overall, I think a year from now, we will have made a fair amount of progress if we stay the course.”

15. McCain has changed his mind about a long-term U.S. military presence in Iraq on multiple occasions, concluding, on multiple occasions, that a Korea-like presence is both a good idea and a bad idea.

16. McCain said before the war in Iraq, “We will win this conflict. We will win it easily.” Four years later, McCain said he knew all along that the war in Iraq war was “probably going to be long and hard and tough.”

17. McCain has repeatedly said it’s a dangerous mistake to tell the “enemy” when U.S. troops would be out of Iraq. In May, McCain announced that most American troops would be home from Iraq by 2013.

8. McCain was against expanding the GI Bill before he was for it.

Domestic Policy

19. McCain defended “privatizing” Social Security. Now he says he’s against privatization (though he actually still supports it.)

20. McCain wanted to change the Republican Party platform to protect abortion rights in cases of rape and incest. Now he doesn’t.

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McCain Lies About Supporting the GI Bill

Posted in Outright Lies, Watch for Yourself with tags , , on July 12, 2008 by doubletalkexpress

John McCain Confronted by Vet. on False Voting Record

Posted in Outright Lies, Watch for Yourself with tags , , , , on July 12, 2008 by doubletalkexpress

McCain Flips on His Strong Support of George Bush’s Policies

Posted in Flip Flops, Outright Lies, Watch for Yourself with tags , , on July 12, 2008 by doubletalkexpress

John McCain – Not So Straight Talk

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CNN – McCain Offshore Drilling Flip Flops

Posted in Flip Flops, Watch for Yourself with tags , , , on July 12, 2008 by doubletalkexpress